Dr. Patty Brennan, with her expertise and passion, walks us through her intriguing journey in the field of biology, specifically her focus on animal genitalia. As an associate professor at Mount Holyoke College, Dr. Brennan has made significant contributions to understanding the often-overlooked area of bird reproduction.

Discovering Bird Genitalia
Dr. Brennan shares her surprising discovery while studying birds — many species, such as ducks, have remarkably diverse genital structures. Her research asks critical evolutionary questions, like why certain birds have lost their penises over time, a curious case that she then further examines with ducks.
The Fascinating World of Duck Reproduction
Exploring duck reproduction sheds light on a genitalia arms race between male and female ducks. Males possess elaborate corkscrew-shaped penises, while females develop convoluted vaginas to counteract forced copulations. This evolutionary adaptation ensures that despite high forced mating attempts, females largely control reproduction success.
Connecting to Human Reproductive Evolution
We discussed the unique features of human genitalia compared to other primates. Humans lack features found in other apes, such as penile spines and the baculum. Dr. Brennan suggests these changes could reflect a reduction in sexual conflict, as human evolutionary history favored biparental care.
Exploring Unique Genitalia in Other Species
Patty Brennan’s research isn't limited to ducks. Her study extends to unexpected similarities between ducks and dolphins, once again showcasing female evolutionary defenses against sexual coercion through complex genitalia.
Exploring Intersex Conditions in Snakes
Dr. Brennan points out that intersex variations, often underrepresented in research, are prevalent in nature and represent significant evolutionary patterns that deserve attention.
Challenges in Scientific Funding
Dr. Brennan opens up about the challenges in securing funding for fundamental science research. Her experience underscores the critical yet often misunderstood importance of these explorations in enhancing our understanding of the world.
Fascinating Discoveries in Animal Genitalia
Dr. Brennan shares captivating discoveries about the regenerative capabilities of duck penises, sparking potential applications in human medicine, illustrating once again how fundamental science can offer unexpected insights.
Importance of the Clitoris in Sexual Behavior
A pivotal part of the discussion revolves around the clitoris' role across many species, suggesting it may explain why females continue to engage in potentially uncomfortable mating behaviors — indicating pleasure plays a key role in reproductive strategies.
Same-Sex Behavior in Animals
The episode wraps up with a look at same-sex behavior in animals. Dr. Brennan highlights how ubiquitous these behaviors are across species, challenging simplistic views on sexuality and reproduction.
Show Notes

Guest Bio: Dr. Patricia Brennan is an evolutionary biologist specializing in reproductive anatomy and sexual selection, with research spanning birds, snakes, bats, dolphins, and sharks. Originally from Colombia, she earned her undergraduate degree in Marine Biology and conducted marine mammal research around the Galápagos before shifting her focus to birds during her PhD at Cornell University. Her groundbreaking work on avian genitalia has expanded to broader studies on genital coevolution, exploring how reproductive structures evolve in response to mating strategies. Now based in Amherst, MA, she continues to lead innovative research, currently supported by an NSF Career Grant to study genital evolution in snakes.
Book Recommendations: Vagina Obscura: An Anatomical Voyage by Rachel Gross and Bitch: On the Female of the Species by Lucy Cooke
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